Re: Get Better Performance/Gas Mileage by Doing This

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Posted by Mr. Fedora on December 1, 2006, 3:04 am
 
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This is a tremendously terrific idea if you really want to f**k up a 'wet
clutch'.  Thanks for sharing.

TROLL!!!!!!



Posted by mewthree on December 2, 2006, 3:13 pm
 

Mr. Fedora <mrfedora@ wrote:

please explain a bit more because i thought nit was i good idea. may be
i need to know abit more of what they are not saying, some thing you know?

Posted by Mr. Fedora on December 7, 2006, 1:13 pm
 



Almost without exception, 'miracle' engine additives add some sort of
"slippery" agent to fuel or oil, or both.  The initial result is the
increase of efficiency of the engine.  This will give a slight increase in
mpg.  The problem is *what* is added to reduce friction.  In some cases, it
is a solid, like Teflon spheres.  Think of millions of tiny ball bearings
coating everything.  Other additives change the chemical make-up of the
detergents in the oil.  Making them less able to capture and suspend the
'sludge' particles.  This tends to make the 'sludge' concentrate in the sump
area.  The oil appears, for a brief time, more slippery.  Some of these
additives will attack seals, gaskets, and other non-metal parts of the
engine.

Works great, at first.

All 4-cycle engines have many very small passages for oil, or use the gaps
in the tolerance fit of parts, to allow oil to reach all the areas that
should get oil.  The oil in the engine lubricates and cools the parts that
it touches. After the initial positive effect of the additives, the
suspended Teflon, non-suspended 'sludge', or the little bits of suspended
non-metal parts of the engine fill these small oil passages.  This stops the
oil flow in the tiny passages.  Oil starved areas generate heat, metal
shavings, or wear bearings.  Your short term gain in increased mpg is
followed by large engine repairs.

Most motorcycles have the clutch assembly bathed in oil.  Some use the oil
of the engine, others have a separate enclosure.  The oil cools the clutch
plates, and protects the friction plates from excessive wear.  Additives in
the oil bathing the clutch assembly will decrease or completely remove the
efficiency of the clutch.

Motorcycles have many special needs and consideration, due to the small and
compact nature of design.  There are special blends of oils, brake fluid,
and hydraulic fluid.  Owner manuals uniformly caution against any type of
additive to the oil.

This is why.



Posted by EffJay R. Yamaha on December 3, 2006, 11:27 am
 

Blazer wrote:

So, Blazer, how much is your commission?  Or is it your scam all the way?



Posted by EffJay R. Yamaha on December 3, 2006, 12:10 pm
 

EffJay R. Yamaha wrote:

Apologies to Blazer for jumping to the conclusion that he was probably
promoting his own sales.  That's just the sort of message that's commonly
left by spammers - "Hey, look at this great product/website I just found out
about!"  Usually it's theirs.  In fact, he may simply have viewed the
advertisement and thought it sounded like a good idea, so I _may_ have
over-reacted.

As someone else pointed out, if it's friction modifiers in that stuff, it
could put a wet clutch (a common feature of motorcycles) out of business
until it's been thoroughly flushed and cleaned.  That's the main difference
between motor oil and motorCYCLE oil.
 



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