Posted by R. LaCasse on July 1, 2009, 3:28 am
wrote:
|>> I remove the (-) terminal if I'm going to use some zap above the
|>> rectifiers 14.9v, it's mostly for peace I guess, so many strange circuits in
|>> different bikes, like the yamy Majesty side stand ignition cutout, interior
|>> storage box..and some days your mind isn't so clear.
|>
|>Just a thought , put in an extension from the battery terminals to a
|>Anderson connector, put leads to a Anderson connector on a spare
|>battery , something you can lift with one hand, Then just wait till
|>you want to start , plug the connectors together, start the bike and
|>go. Unplug first!!
I use 2 older $214 Yamy Majesty GS "wet cell" SLA MF on a UPS
"opz/inverter/converter" float all the time to Jump Start with regular car
cables when the battery get's too low because of the alarm or temporary
neglect.
I just use one battery at a time so far, but these Specialty
Batteries are pricy, and are finicky/sensitive to charge because of hi-vrla
internal resistance so the El Cheapo "AGMs" are better with less internal
resistance, at least the "AGMs" are better pricewise.
Posted by Sporty on July 2, 2009, 4:04 pm
> wrote:
> |>R. LaCasse wrote:
> |>
> |>>>>> Do you remove the Battery Terminals?
> |>>>> no.
> |>>
> |>> The Main Fuse catches any anomaly in power surge,
> |>
> |>Geezzz......fuses don't "catch anomalies", they go open when presented
> with
> |>a substantial overload. They generally don't "care" about spikes. They
> |>certainly don't care about voltage spikes as a fuse "works" on excessive
> |>current flow.
> |>
> |>Equipment that is turned OFF doesn't care about spikes either.
> |>
> Witty dissection, what I meant by Surge isn't a spike, but a
> Battery Charger (Current) Overload.
> Oddly the Yamy Shop Manual says not to use Auto or constant AMP
> chargers since they will damage the MF GTB9-4 "wet" SLA battery. and that
> means ALL of the Battery Tenders on the Market, doesn't it.
> I have since switched to an AGM hybrid, were I can quick Charge
> with no Damage to 12v/5amps.
> Bob
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Various charging algorithms are available to acommodate the wide range of
lead acid battery styles: Flooded, Sealed, VRLA, GEL & AGM. Check with the
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I own 3 Battery Tender Plus units and NEVER had a battery damaged, I even
left one battery hooked up for 2 years.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on June 30, 2009, 2:07 am
> NO??? That's pretty freaky if your running a highly computerized
> M/C Scooter like a Yamy Majesty 400, I used to do it your way on the Honda
> CH250, but today's bikes have too much computerized things to go wrong if
> the Main Fuse doesn't catch it....
>
> The Main Fuse catches any anomaly in power surge, but there's
> always that 1-->1,000+ times.....again computerized side stands and storage
> box lights may be at risk of a surge....
Nonsense.
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Posted by SoCalMike on July 1, 2009, 4:42 am
Bob wrote:
> I looked at a lot a chargers (battery tender jr/plus), with the
> terminal rings, but those rings are 18" and too short for any real use on a
> majesty. without adding on some length and stuff, but still a trickle
> charger is not too interesting in my situation, that is I can't leave it
> charging overnight like some fortunate ppl can.
I fabricated my own harnesses with the standard "trailer" type 2-pole
plugs, and they work great. The plugs are available at just about any
auto parts store, add wire, splice/solder/shrinkwrap, add rings on the
end, solder, shrink wrap and youre done. Just double check the polarity,
though. :)
Posted by Bob on June 26, 2009, 12:50 am
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:20:18 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber
|>declaimed the following in alt.scooter:
|>
|>>
|>> Does this machine NOT have an alternator ??
|>> If so, how about fixing it so that you don't NEED a charger at all ???
|>>
|> If it is anything like my dung beetle, one would have to spend an
|>hour at cruise to do anything... Stop&Go city traffic won't do it --
|>idling at a light draws the voltage down to ~11, and it takes over two
|>blocks for the voltmeter to rise back to 13.7 (don't turn on the low
|>beam, that drops the voltages 0.2V)
So theoretically, if (idling at a light draws the voltage down to
~11) if you stayed there, it would sulfate the battery and you wouldn't be
able to restart.....are you sure your charger is working right......AFAIK
this shouldn't be happening....
I'm not too sure about mine at *stop lights*, since I don't have an
onboard voltmeter on the Yamy Majesty, but those 2 120watt halogens are a
big suck that you can't turn off in bright daytime for some battery charging
power.
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> |>R. LaCasse wrote:
> |>
> |>>>>> Do you remove the Battery Terminals?
> |>>>> no.
> |>>
> |>> The Main Fuse catches any anomaly in power surge,
> |>
> |>Geezzz......fuses don't "catch anomalies", they go open when presented
> with
> |>a substantial overload. They generally don't "care" about spikes. They
> |>certainly don't care about voltage spikes as a fuse "works" on excessive
> |>current flow.
> |>
> |>Equipment that is turned OFF doesn't care about spikes either.
> |>
> Witty dissection, what I meant by Surge isn't a spike, but a
> Battery Charger (Current) Overload.
> Oddly the Yamy Shop Manual says not to use Auto or constant AMP
> chargers since they will damage the MF GTB9-4 "wet" SLA battery. and that
> means ALL of the Battery Tenders on the Market, doesn't it.
> I have since switched to an AGM hybrid, were I can quick Charge
> with no Damage to 12v/5amps.
> Bob